Aha, turns out the book being published is a companion publication to
"Familien- und Sippenbuch Hoffnungstal Bessarabien" by Albert Eisenbeiss
and not related at all to the Hoffnungstal, Odessa Parish
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| Author: | morbeus [ Wed May 25, 2011 1:13 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Hoffnungstal, Odessa Parish General Discussion |
Dale Wahl was a driving force behind Hoffnungstal, Odessa Oblast, Parish (HOP) research everywhere in the GER-RUS community and he published a newsletter devoted to the parish for 15 years. This topic is intended for questions, discussions, history of when villages joined or left the parish, history of the parish churches and other issues related to the Hoffnungstal Odessa Lutheran Parish. It is not intended for discussions about individual villages in the HOP. For those discussions please ask in the village topic for your village if it already exists or create a new topic for your village and ask there. To start here is a list of HOP villages published by Dale in 2003 in issue 11-2 of his newsletter: Quote: ......................................Hoffnungstal Parish Villages and Chutors (used with permission of the Dale Wahl Group)We have attempted to take good notes concerning the villages and Chutors/Khutors of the parish of Hoffnungstal between 1818 and 1944. The following is not a completed work but something in process. If you have data that differs with this list that we should share here in the newsletter or change this listing, please forward to your editor for such consideration. We should note that there were many different spellings and some times different names for these various villages and Chutors. We should also note that some of these villages and Chutors may have belonged to different parishes than Hoffnungstal over the years. Village/Chutor ... Founded ... Stumpp map .. Russian Name ...... Comments/remarks Berlin ................1867 ........C-5 .......... Worobjewo ........ same as Neu Berlin Ehni Chutor ....................... .............. ......................... see Ossinowka w/comments Eigenfeld ...........1868 ........C-4 .......... Sachanskoje ....... aka Wolkowo Essig Chutor ..... ................ .............. ......................... see Ossinowka w/comments Fontal ............... ................ .............. ....................... see Gross-Fontal Freiberg ............ ...............C-5 .......... ........................ Gieck Chutor ......... ................ .............. ......................... see Ossinowka w/comments Grekowa ................ ...........B-3 .......... Grekovo ........... on 1905 Parish listing Gross-Fontal ..........1873 .....B-2 .......... ....................... aka Fonthal Hoffnungsfeld .........1856 .....B-5 .......... Torosowa .......... aka Tarasowo Hoffnungstal ........ 1819 .......C-5 .......... Zebrikowo .......... aka Cebrikowo, Girowka Irenenfeld ............... ...........B-5 .......... Irenowka .......... Irenovka Chutor ..... .............B-5 .......... ......................... see Irenenfeld - on 1905 Parish listing Ishickojo ................ ............. .............. ........................ see Ishitskoye Chutor Ishitskoye Chutor ... .............30/47 ...... Ishickojo ............ on 1905 Parish listing Klein-Hoffnungstal ..1922 .......C-5 ......... Maloje Zebrikowa ..aka Schepsa Chutor, Neuhoffnungstal Makarowka ............1880 ......C-5 ..........Makarovka ........... on 1905 Parish listing Makarowo .............. ............. .............. ........................ see Schonfeld Malikhonovo .......... .............. .............. ......................... aka Malichonowo - on 1905 Parish listing Mardarovka Chutor ................ .............. .......................... aka Mardarowka - on 1905 Parish listing Metzker Chutor ...... .............C-5 .......... ......................... Nesselrode .............1873 ......B-3 .......... Kujalnik ............. aka Kujalkin, Kujaluik Neu Beresina .........1865 .......C-5 .......... Malaja Siminowka . aka Zamanowka, Ziminowka, Berezniki Neu Berlin .............. ............. .............. ......................... see Berlin Neu Glückstal ........1860 .......C-5 .......... Zibuljewka ......... aka Zybuljewka, Cybulewka Neuhof Chutor .......1926 ..........C-4 .......... Witaschewskaje .. aka Nejkowa, Neugowo, Naitowo Olrada Chutor ....... ................C-4 .......... Zolotschewski ..... on 1905 Parish listing Ossinowka ..........1880-1902 ..C-4 .......... .......................... Chutor Ehni, Singer, Gieck, Essig Rath Chutor ........... ................C-5 .......... Sekretarowka ..... Sachanskoje ........... ................ .............. ........................ see Eigenfeld Schäfer .................. ................ .............. ......................... on 1905 Parish listing Schirajewo .............1874 ..........C-4 .......... Shiroyevo .......... Schöndorf .............. ................ .............. ......................... see Giesinger page 124 Schonfeld ............... ................C-4 ..........Makarowo .......... Seebach ................1874 ..........B-2 .......... Luntscha ............ on 1905 Parish listing Sekretarowka ......... ................ .............. ......................... see Rath Chutor Sherebrovo ............. ................C-5 .......... ....................... aka Sherebkowo, Scherebrowka Singer Chutor ........ ................ .............. ......................... see Ossinowka w/comments Tiefland .................. ................ .............. ........................ see Ossinowka w/comments Torosowa ............... ................ .............. ......................... see Hoffnungsfeld Witaschewskaje ...... ................ .............. ......................... see Neuhof Chutor Zebrikowo .............. ................ .............. ......................... see Hoffnungstal Zibuljewka ............. ................ .............. ......................... see Neu Glückstal Zolotschewski .................................................................. The following table contains some villages and chutors which have been reflected as being associated with Hoffnungstal or were in the geographic area of Hoffnungstal which makes them worthy to be listed as having potential of being included in the Hoffnungstal parish at some time during the parishes’ history. Village/Chutor ... Founded ... Stumpp map .. Russian Name ...... Comments/remarks Abakly .................... ............... .............. ........................ Ak Scheich .............. ............... .............. ........................ Annenfeld ............... ............... .............. ........................ Bachmut ................. ............... .............. ........................ Baronowka .............. ............... .............. ........................ Becker Chutor ......... ...............C-5 ......... ........................ Beutelspacher Chutor ...............C-5 ......... ........................ Braun Chutor ......... 1911 .........C-4 ......... ........................ Kalmios ................... ............... .............. ........................ Kleefeld ................... ..............C-4 ......... ........................ Michelsfeld .............. ...............C-5 ......... ........................ aka Prijutowka Perpletowka ............ ...............C-5 ......... ........................ Schulten ................. ............... .............. ........................ Seeberg ................... .............C-5 .......... ........................ aka Budenyj Weiss Chutor .......... ...............C-5 ......... ........................ Welter Chutor ......... ...............C-5 ......... ........................ aka Wesselyj Kut, Michelstal Wiesental ................ ..............C-4 ......... ........................ Alt-Kaltscha u. Wladimirowka The October 2003 (11-2) newsletter also contains a very good history of the parish |
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| Author: | DKilwien [ Sun Jun 05, 2011 5:28 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Hoffnungstal, Odessa Parish General Discussion |
I didn't realize so many villages were involved in the Hoffnungstal parish. GRHS is about to publish a book that relates to this interest group |
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| Author: | morbeus [ Mon Jun 06, 2011 1:55 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Hoffnungstal, Odessa Parish General Discussion |
DKilwien wrote: I didn't realize so many villages were involved in the Hoffnungstal parish. GRHS is about to publish a book that relates to this interest group Hi David, Well that is very interesting news. I have not heard about a HOP book and you would think they would tell the HOP RIG webmaster this news. These are the villages we knew about in 2003, even more have been identified since then. |
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| Author: | morbeus [ Mon Jun 13, 2011 6:41 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Hoffnungstal, Odessa Parish General Discussion |
Aha, turns out the book being published is a companion publication to "Familien- und Sippenbuch Hoffnungstal Bessarabien" by Albert Eisenbeiss and not related at all to the Hoffnungstal, Odessa Parish
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