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 Post subject: Hoffnungstal, Odessa Parish General Discussion
PostPosted: Wed May 25, 2011 1:13 pm 
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Dale Wahl was a driving force behind Hoffnungstal, Odessa Oblast, Parish (HOP) research everywhere in the GER-RUS community and he published a newsletter devoted to the parish for 15 years. This topic is intended for questions, discussions, history of when villages joined or left the parish, history of the parish churches and other issues related to the Hoffnungstal Odessa Lutheran Parish. It is not intended for discussions about individual villages in the HOP. For those discussions please ask in the village topic for your village if it already exists or create a new topic for your village and ask there.

To start here is a list of HOP villages published by Dale in 2003 in issue 11-2 of his newsletter:
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......................................Hoffnungstal Parish Villages and Chutors
We have attempted to take good notes concerning the villages and Chutors/Khutors of the parish of Hoffnungstal between 1818 and 1944. The following is not a completed work but something in process. If you have data that differs with this list that we should share here in the newsletter or change this listing, please forward to your editor for such consideration.
We should note that there were many different spellings and some times different names for these various villages and Chutors. We should also note that some of these villages and Chutors may have belonged to different parishes than Hoffnungstal over the years.


Village/Chutor ... Founded ... Stumpp map .. Russian Name ...... Comments/remarks
Berlin ................1867 ........C-5 .......... Worobjewo ........ same as Neu Berlin
Ehni Chutor ....................... .............. ......................... see Ossinowka w/comments
Eigenfeld ...........1868 ........C-4 .......... Sachanskoje ....... aka Wolkowo
Essig Chutor ..... ................ .............. ......................... see Ossinowka w/comments
Fontal ............... ................ .............. ....................... see Gross-Fontal
Freiberg ............ ...............C-5 .......... ........................
Gieck Chutor ......... ................ .............. ......................... see Ossinowka w/comments
Grekowa ................ ...........B-3 .......... Grekovo ........... on 1905 Parish listing
Gross-Fontal ..........1873 .....B-2 .......... ....................... aka Fonthal
Hoffnungsfeld .........1856 .....B-5 .......... Torosowa .......... aka Tarasowo
Hoffnungstal ........ 1819 .......C-5 .......... Zebrikowo .......... aka Cebrikowo, Girowka
Irenenfeld ............... ...........B-5 .......... Irenowka ..........
Irenovka Chutor ..... .............B-5 .......... ......................... see Irenenfeld - on 1905 Parish listing
Ishickojo ................ ............. .............. ........................ see Ishitskoye Chutor
Ishitskoye Chutor ... .............30/47 ...... Ishickojo ............ on 1905 Parish listing
Klein-Hoffnungstal ..1922 .......C-5 ......... Maloje Zebrikowa ..aka Schepsa Chutor, Neuhoffnungstal
Makarowka ............1880 ......C-5 ..........Makarovka ........... on 1905 Parish listing
Makarowo .............. ............. .............. ........................ see Schonfeld
Malikhonovo .......... .............. .............. ......................... aka Malichonowo - on 1905 Parish listing
Mardarovka Chutor ................ .............. .......................... aka Mardarowka - on 1905 Parish listing
Metzker Chutor ...... .............C-5 .......... .........................
Nesselrode .............1873 ......B-3 .......... Kujalnik ............. aka Kujalkin, Kujaluik
Neu Beresina .........1865 .......C-5 .......... Malaja Siminowka . aka Zamanowka, Ziminowka, Berezniki
Neu Berlin .............. ............. .............. ......................... see Berlin
Neu Glückstal ........1860 .......C-5 .......... Zibuljewka ......... aka Zybuljewka, Cybulewka
Neuhof Chutor .......1926 ..........C-4 .......... Witaschewskaje .. aka Nejkowa, Neugowo, Naitowo
Olrada Chutor ....... ................C-4 .......... Zolotschewski ..... on 1905 Parish listing
Ossinowka ..........1880-1902 ..C-4 .......... .......................... Chutor Ehni, Singer, Gieck, Essig
Rath Chutor ........... ................C-5 .......... Sekretarowka .....
Sachanskoje ........... ................ .............. ........................ see Eigenfeld
Schäfer .................. ................ .............. ......................... on 1905 Parish listing
Schirajewo .............1874 ..........C-4 .......... Shiroyevo ..........
Schöndorf .............. ................ .............. ......................... see Giesinger page 124
Schonfeld ............... ................C-4 ..........Makarowo ..........
Seebach ................1874 ..........B-2 .......... Luntscha ............ on 1905 Parish listing
Sekretarowka ......... ................ .............. ......................... see Rath Chutor
Sherebrovo ............. ................C-5 .......... ....................... aka Sherebkowo, Scherebrowka
Singer Chutor ........ ................ .............. ......................... see Ossinowka w/comments
Tiefland .................. ................ .............. ........................ see Ossinowka w/comments
Torosowa ............... ................ .............. ......................... see Hoffnungsfeld
Witaschewskaje ...... ................ .............. ......................... see Neuhof Chutor
Zebrikowo .............. ................ .............. ......................... see Hoffnungstal
Zibuljewka ............. ................ .............. ......................... see Neu Glückstal
Zolotschewski ..................................................................

The following table contains some villages and chutors which have been reflected as being
associated with Hoffnungstal or were in the geographic area of Hoffnungstal which makes
them worthy to be listed as having potential of being included in the Hoffnungstal parish at
some time during the parishes’ history.

Village/Chutor ... Founded ... Stumpp map .. Russian Name ...... Comments/remarks
Abakly .................... ............... .............. ........................
Ak Scheich .............. ............... .............. ........................
Annenfeld ............... ............... .............. ........................
Bachmut ................. ............... .............. ........................
Baronowka .............. ............... .............. ........................
Becker Chutor ......... ...............C-5 ......... ........................
Beutelspacher Chutor ...............C-5 ......... ........................
Braun Chutor ......... 1911 .........C-4 ......... ........................
Kalmios ................... ............... .............. ........................
Kleefeld ................... ..............C-4 ......... ........................
Michelsfeld .............. ...............C-5 ......... ........................ aka Prijutowka
Perpletowka ............ ...............C-5 ......... ........................
Schulten ................. ............... .............. ........................
Seeberg ................... .............C-5 .......... ........................ aka Budenyj
Weiss Chutor .......... ...............C-5 ......... ........................
Welter Chutor ......... ...............C-5 ......... ........................ aka Wesselyj Kut, Michelstal
Wiesental ................ ..............C-4 ......... ........................ Alt-Kaltscha u. Wladimirowka
(used with permission of the Dale Wahl Group)

The October 2003 (11-2) newsletter also contains a very good history of the parish

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 Post subject: Re: Hoffnungstal, Odessa Parish General Discussion
PostPosted: Sun Jun 05, 2011 5:28 pm 
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I didn't realize so many villages were involved in the Hoffnungstal parish. GRHS is about to publish a book that relates to this interest group


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 Post subject: Re: Hoffnungstal, Odessa Parish General Discussion
PostPosted: Mon Jun 06, 2011 1:55 pm 
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DKilwien wrote:
I didn't realize so many villages were involved in the Hoffnungstal parish. GRHS is about to publish a book that relates to this interest group


Hi David, Well that is very interesting news. I have not heard about a HOP book and you would think they would tell the HOP RIG webmaster this news.

These are the villages we knew about in 2003, even more have been identified since then.

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 Post subject: Re: Hoffnungstal, Odessa Parish General Discussion
PostPosted: Mon Jun 13, 2011 6:41 pm 
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Aha, turns out the book being published is a companion publication to

"Familien- und Sippenbuch Hoffnungstal Bessarabien" by Albert Eisenbeiss

and not related at all to the Hoffnungstal, Odessa Parish :(

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