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 Post subject: Grossliebental, Grossliebental District of Odessa
PostPosted: Wed May 25, 2011 8:43 am 
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German Name:Grossliebental, Russian Name:Marinskoye/Marinskoje, Ukrainian Name:Velikodolinskoye/Bolschaya Akerscha
Religion: Evangelical

Pioneer settler surnames: Ackermann, Ade, Aichele, Albrecht, Arndt, Auch, Bader, Bauder, Bauer, Baum, Baumgärtner, Beck, Benz, Berg, Beutelspacher, Beyerle, Binder, Blum, Blumstein, Börkirchenert, Brahm, Braitmayer, Breitmaier, Buck, Daniel, Diehl, Dieter, Düval, Durian, Eberhard, Eberle, Ebert, Eberwein, Ebinger, Enis, Eisenbarth, Ellinger, Ellwanger, Elser, Erbele, Esslinger, Feucht, Feil, Finkbeiner, Finkbohner, Frank, Frech, Frisch, Fritz, Fröhlich, Fröscher, Fröschle, Fromm, Fuchs, Fürst, Gärtner, Gaier, Gassert, Geissel, Geissler, Gieck, Giesser, Girr, Gissing, Göhring, Greber, Gross, Gruber, Grübele, Gutbrod, Häberle, Häfner, Hägele, Häring, Häuser, Hagel, Haigis, Happ, Harr, Haufler, Haug, Hein, Helfenstein, Hermann, Herter, Heyd, Hill, Hinke, Hochstetter, Höschele, Hoffmann, Horand, Hornberger, Huber, Huck, Ihle, Kässmann, Kaiser, Katz, Kaul, Kauter, Keiber, Keilen, Kern, Kielnecker, Kindlieb, Klein, Klenk, Klinger, Klukas, Knapp, Knoblich, Koch, Kölle, Kottke, Kuhn, Kundert, Kurz, Kurtz, Laier, Lehmann, Leyerle, Lang, Layer, Lindenmann, Lingohr, Löffler, Lukas, Maier, Maser, Max, Menger, Meth, Meyer, Müller, Münch, Munsch, Nafziger, Nagel, Neth, Neunecker, Nonnenmann, Osterle, Otinger, Orth, Ott, Pertsch, Pf(l)anzler, Plocher, Pracht, Raff, Rapp, Rees, Reich, Reichkimmer, Reimwald, Remer, Rentschler, Riedlinger, Rivinius, Roll, Roller, Rommel, Roth, Rothfuss, Ruf, Ruppert, Sauer, Sauter, Schäfer, Schatz, Schauffler, Scheck, Scheffer, Scherer, Scherle, Scheu, Schilling, Schleich, Schlegel, Schmidt, Schmied, Schmiedgall, Schneider, Schöttle, Schuler, Schulz, Schweikert, Späth, Spielmann, Stadinger, Steinert, Steinhilber, Stoll, Stoller, Strohmaier, Stückle, Stuke, Thielmann, Thomas, Torno, Ullrich, Utz, Veil, Vogt, Vollmer, Wagner, Waldmann, Walker, Walther, Wandhammer, Weber, Wegner, Weinmann, Weimer, Weiss, Weissenburger, Weller, Wesch, Wörner, Würz, Wurst, Ziegenhagel, Zimmermann, Zwicker. (Source: Homesteaders on the Steppe by Joseph S. Height.) Search the Black Sea database (http://www.blackseagr.org/blksea-db/searchform.php) for these settlers.

Articles:
GDO Newsletter - Grossliebental Village - Issue 2-1, page 1

Books:
Auswanderung Aus Schwaben Nach Russland 1816-1823 by Dr. Georg Leibbrandt (copy available at the GRHS Library)
Erinnerungen an die deutschen Kolonien des Grossliebentaler Rayons bei Odessa by Eduard Mack (pages 83-102)
From Catherine to Khruschev by Dr. Adam Giesinger (pages 102-105)
Homesteaders on the Steppe by Joseph S. Height (pages 77-79, 149-154, 330-336)
The Emigration from Germany to Russia in the Years 1763 – 1862 by Karl Stumpp (pages 577-598)

Census Records:
1816 census is in the Stumpp book
Grossliebental Liebental District Odessa 1858 Census by GRHS and AHSGR

Church Records:
St. Petersburg Archives Grossliebental Parish for the years 183X – 188X (available online at https://www.familysearch.org/search/collection/show#uri=http://hr-search-api:8080/searchapi/search/collection/1469151)

Plat Maps: Homesteaders on the Steppe (page 332) and Erinnerungen an die deutschen Kolonien des Grossliebentaler Rayons bei Odessa by Eduard Mack (page 102)

Village History (1848) (available online at http://grhs.org/vr/vhistory/grossliebental.htm)

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 Post subject: Re: Grossliebental, Grossliebental District of Odessa
PostPosted: Wed Jul 13, 2011 11:53 am 
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According to family tales, my Georg Schweikert / Schweickert / Schweigert migr. to Grossliebental in 1811 after leaving Napoleon's Army. His son Michael Wilhelm b. abt 1787 ended up in Borodino/Bessarabia about 1811. He is listed as being part of the 1812 group. Those who migr. to Borodino in 1817 were called "the 17teeners".....

My Schweikert family site can be found at:
http://www.remmick.org/Schweikert.Genealogy/index.html

They were Blacksmiths and Wheelwrights.

This is a huge family and most of the family members lived very very long lives so it is often difficult to track all the families. Many of the men married more than once... They can be found from Eppelheim / n. Heidelberg, to Schwaigern to Poland to many parts of Russia [Bessarabia to the Crimea] to the USA [Dakota Territory to Idaho to California USA]....

My great grandfather Karl Schweickert/Schweigert was an inventor... One of the items he invented was the "chimming hub/wheels made for fancy carriages and wagons". He loved new gadgets and engines. He brought in the first American tractors into Bessarabia and they didn't sell very well because they frighten the horses.... Even in the US he had his own mind and brought sheep into cattle country.....


Karls daughter, my maternal grandmother, Christine Schweikert m. Ludwig Hein. Both were born in 1885 and I knew them well.

Other family connections are:
Barth, Bippus, Boll, Bommler, Dietrich. Ensinger/ Enzimger, Frey, Haller, Henke, Huesel, Keyser, Klinger, Kranzler, Leicht, Liedle, Lepp, Maercklin, Matthes, Mauth, Muossen, Reinhardt, Rehberger,
Scholderer, Schneider, schultheiss/ Schultes, Staehlin, Staiger, Volger, Walter, Werenwag

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 Post subject: Re: Grossliebental, Grossliebental District of Odessa
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My maternal great grandmother, surname Kundert had a house in Grossliebental and so did another relative Naumov (not a very German sending name)

My grandfather Paul Vaatz married grandmother Sophie Kundert on 18th sept 1905 (old calendar). His brother Albert married her sister Mathilde. Paul owned the estate where he was born in Stchastlifka but lived in Odessa. He had an interest in the Mercedes Agancy there. Albert lived on his estate in Karlovka. They both fled to Germany, Paul in 1919 and Albert escaped by the skin of his teeth in the last big exodus in 1920.

I have a hand drawn plan of GL done by my Naumov cousin who visited in 2002.

I would be interested in an early 1917-1920 plan of Odessa with the old street names to locate the places and movement of the family before the Revolution

When fleeing the Bolsheviks they first went to GL but then the village murdered Reds demanding products and recruits for the Red army. Retribution followed so the Vaatzs fled to Franzfeld hoping to cross the Dniester. Finally when the White reoccupied Odessa again they managed to get passage to Germany. So any details of these villages would be interesting. And anyone with relatives who married into the Kundert or Vaatz family


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 Post subject: Re: Grossliebental, Grossliebental District of Odessa
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There are a lot KUNDERT and VAATZ families in the Black Sea database. Also, if you currently have a family tree you may want to submit it to database@blackseagr.org as this is one of the best ways to connect with others researching the same surnames. Information on submitting trees is located at http://www.blackseagr.org/research/gedcom-submit.html.

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